According to an updated Wesh 2 news report based on the documents released Friday, Orlando Defense Attorney Richard Hornsby is strongly recommending the defense for Casey Anthony reconsider their “all or nothing strategy”. Check it out:
http://www.wesh.com/news/21532034/detail.html
Mr. Hornsby had some very interesting things to say, like:
“My reaction is now I understand why the state attorney is seeking the death penalty. You now have the premeditation filled in. You now have the cause of death filled in,” (speaking about the documents)
“They confirm Caylee was dead at the time Casey had the car. In fact, she was trying to conceal the car from everybody else,” (speaking about the coffin flies)
“The chloroform is the smoking gun. It’s the nail in the coffin, and the duct tape supports the imposition of the death penalty,”
I must say I completely agree with his analysis. I gave you my take on the docs already and I think Mr. Hornsby and I have a lot in common in our thinking here. I agree with him 100%! I find it very interesting that the defense has not responded this time. No comments, no media circus, no Geraldo At Large, nothing. That’s a bit out of character for the “dream team”. I think this latest was a pretty big blow, and maybe it is time they rethink the strategy, as the previous gamble hasn’t been working, and they’ve got to come up with some info come February to back up their previous claims. I don’t see them having it.
In other news, as most of you all know, Bill Sheaffer now has a blog on wordpress:
http://billsheaffer.wordpress.com/
Welcome Mr. Sheaffer!
Last but not least, Dominic Casey is trying to weasel his way out of the depos again:
http://www.wftv.com/news/21573563/detail.html
His motion:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21405276/detail.html
Apparently it’s been set back to December 16th. This guy just does not want to be deposed. Wonder why???







Hey niecey~~ thanks so much for letting us know about Bill Shaeffers new Blog.
I am so happy that we finally have some one who can explain to us what is going on legally in this Case. It will clear up a lot of Confusion and Rumors.
Like always we can depend on You for giving us the latest News concerning this Case, You are appreciated I sure hope You know that niecey!
Got lots to do around here, will try to be back later.
Thanks again, have a great Afternoon!
Dom Casey’s new dodge? At first I thought you were talkin about a new car!!
Maybe his latest getaway mobile, to flee from the depos….. Can’t you see him speeding away from the courthouse in a little Dodge Dart, blaring the themesong from a James Bond movie or something?
I’m thinkin Tina Turner’s rendition of “Golden Eye.”
Hey Hilde! You’re welcome. I am excited about his new blog. I agree it will be a great asset to those of us following this case. Thank you Hilde! I really appreciate that! Have A Wonderful Afternoon!
LOL! Ostella,
, I new that you or Spacely would pick up on that one!
It sounded good and I can picture that quite well………………………. He would look like this too
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Either way, I can see it.
Ostella I like your take on the Dodge and the unintended play on words! Or was that intentional…..??? Whtever Mr Casey was trying to do will more than likely backfire.
I think it will too Boston.
they need to negotiate a plea….i am not kidding!
I wish he would get to it! He can’t hide anything now, besides he is just another piece of the puzzle. I am so glad that our police and FBI are proving to be as smart, and definite in their evidence release as they have been.
I think they are as dedicated as the rest of us in getting Justice for Caylee.
I am thinking alot of people agree with Hornsby, he is pretty cut and dry and doesn’t cut corners. Tells it like it is! As for the defense, they are hiding under a rock not to mention ALL the motions they filed just before the doc dump. If they say anything, I am sure they will comment it is junk science. Of course we know they have the wonderful Doca Lee. I assume he doesn’t claim to do junk science, just hid evidence.
Yea!!! Richard Hornsby has changed his mind! Remember he told us in a comment a while back that he thought she would get convicted on all the charges against her EXCEPT the death penalty one. Dis is good news indeed!!!
Hey Renee! I think they should, if they can. They may not be able to pull it off now. The State may not deal.
They could have her do an Alford Plea, but I’m thinking she wouldn’t get less than LWOP. I don’t know if they can get the State to take the DP off now or not.
Hey Ivys Grama! I agree with that. Dominic Casey is not going to get out of this and he’s wasting precious time and resource. I agree with you about the FBI and LE, and I might add Kudos to the State as well.
Humble I agree. LOL! I agree the defense is hiding. What else can they do at this point? Doca Lee can’t help them now, not even with the extra hairs, he most likely planted.
Mystery, I know. Right? A 180! Very good news!!! I respect his opinion. I believe he’s honest. Even when I didn’t agree with him I respected him being a stand up guy. He stood for what he believed, so for him to say these things, it no looky good for Casey.
Hehehehe… D can’t afford a Dodge, a Dart, or even an mp3 of the James Bond themesong… he is still waiting for Jose to pay him!!!
I heard he does have a snazzy set of snap-on roller skates for his sneakers and an old 80’s walkman with a bootleg tape of Secret Agent Man…
i am agree with mr. hornsby.i am happy bill schaeffer have his blog, and not forget katie behlich thats is a dreamteam!!
dominic casey want more time to get his lies straight,but i believe he dont cant run away from this!
Hey Boston! It was an intentional play on words!
I can just see him freezing up during the depo after the first tough question, then suddenly jumping thru a window into the awaiting Dodge Dart, which is decorated with shamrock seat covers, and equipped with a fully stocked minibar in the backseat….
Spacely, ROTFL!!!!
I’m thinking you are right. The night at the Ritz he had to stuff some of those crab puffs in his pocket for lunch the next day. Jose just won’t pay his bills!
Me too Mikka! I am too! I think that will be great! I wish Kathi B did start one that would be pretty cool as well!
I don’t think D. Casey can run from this either. He amazes me.
LOL Ostella!
My fav D Casey quote is the one where the cops ask him who determined which tips would be forwarded to police and which would not. He replies with a really long-winded explanation about how some tips are from psychics and some are legit and someone has to decide… and they interrupt him repeatedly and ask the same question over and over… and he keeps giving a spiel about how tips are tips and some are not and some are good and some are bad… and they finally stop him and ask the question again and state the who is all they are interested in… and at this point he gives the best quote ever:
“You’re confusing me”.
LOL!
Classic D. Casey!
WOO-HOO!!! Mr. Hornsby! Took the words right out of our mouths! If these documents so far contain information the defense “doesn’t mind” releasing, can you imagine the stuff they’re saving for trial??? No wonder they’re going for the DP. I think they will get it.
Niecey, you are so often accurate in your predictions! You are one sharp cookie!
Spacely, FUNNY quote, “You’re confusing me.”
Hey Bees! I’m with you! WOO-HOO!!! I think so too Bees.
Thank You Bees!
Defense still uncharacteristically quiet. Do you think they’re just waiting to see how we deal with the latest evidence (chloroform needle)? I hope they can see we are appropriately horrified and more determined than ever that Caylee’s murderer is brought to justice.
I’m not sure why they are so quiet, except that was a pretty big blow, but usually they do at least release a statement. Of course they are not in a very good position right now. This is very uncharacteristic for them.
My take on this last release is that Bozo’s ego is so big it does not phase him at all.
Bozo must have a brother who is also an attorney. There was a case just last week where a guy from FL went to Jersey and shot his son-in-law, dead. The trial was in Jersey and the defense was that the killer was to fat, (280)lbs to run up the stairs, shoot him and drive to Louisiana to his mothers house.
Now how insane is that, well maybe not so bad compared to Casey and Bozo.
It probably doesn’t faze him at all. Maybe the Lyon told them all to shut up? After all Todd got them in a bit of a fix. Baez is still arrogant enough to believe he can win. Todd is still ignorant enough to run his mouth. The Lyon is the only one I could think could be keeping a firm hand on them, although I’m not really impressed with her either. LKB was supposed to be on a blog talk radio show on Sunday I believe.
That is completely insane John! I think we need to get a handle on the political side of our law schools. I think they’re turning out politicians instead of attorneys. Amazing!
Hiya my l♥velies…just read the 220 comments on Bees ♥Bill’s new blog…nice to see so many friendly faces.
Niecey thanks for letting me know that my posts are still showing up…still having trouble with wordpress…can’t log in to John’s site
Tina…I have no idea what the Koala’s name is. I googled “Koala” which showed many sites…I just chose the one I liked for the link. Perhaps you would like to give him/her a name
Hugs ♥♥♥
Just want to say that Bill Sheaffer is AWESOME!!!!!!!
One more time…
Richard Hornsby is just as AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“can’t log in to John’s site”. Jill, do you mean my blog or my web page?
The web page here,
http://home.roadrunner.com/~inskeep/john%20inskeep.html
is written in flash and you need the plugin on your browser to see it.
My blog has sort of been shut down for a while and I now have it set so that all should be able to post. Some new poster will be moderated.
more B.S
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21576734/detail.html
look this from a weshbloggers,thats a bombshell!
Too bad the chemist was not asked about the insecticide based poison found in the Crystal Light bottle that was in her trunk. That is not something anyone in the media has reported on; yet, it is in latest discovery release. Evidence item 241 page 11481 and it’s ingredients are listed on page 11553. I’d say that it is a “smoking gun” a sinister one.
andrea lyon
Hey Jill! Sorry you are having trouble. Are you having trouble viewing John’s site, or trying to comment? I don’t quite understand. You’re avatar is showing up with your comments. John said above he’s got it set so you should be able to comment.
Hey Suedeone! Welcome!!! I agree on both counts.
Hey John! Jill just cleared all her cookies and that’s where the trouble began. Mystery told her to do it as she was having trouble viewing the avatars.
Jill, You want me to email you?
Hey Mikka! Thanks for sharing! I’m going to have to take another look at all that. One, I thought I read the Crystal Light bottle smelled as though it contained urine, and they declined to test it. Two, I thought the chloroform was a bit different than that. I will have to go back through.
As far as the Lyon, I’m amazed, but not surprised. (Shaking my head)
Here is a news story that I am sure will break your hearts:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/services/content/local_news/epaper/2009/11/04/1104abuse.html?cxtype=ynews_rss
The guy in this article lies over and over about abusing this poor child and now the girlfriend says she was going to get a restraining order… a bit too late.
I am sure you have all heard about crazy astronaut Nowak getting virtually no punishment at all for assaulting and attempting to kidnap her love rival for a married man.
“Under the plea deal, she agreed to a year of probation and 50 hours of community service.”
The woman thought long and hard enough about hurting an unsuspecting victim to buy adult diapers so that she didn’t have to stop on her long drive in a car stocked with kidnapping and imprisonment equipment… and our justice system felt this was the appropriate punishment…
This is less than the normal sentence a shoplifter gets.
Probably not a great day for victims’ rights today…
Hey Spacely! A sad day indeed. That guy should have had the book thrown at him, and the same for the Nowak case. She should have had a lot stiffer punishment. What a shame. Totally amazing. What about the victims?
To be completely fair, I did forget to include the rest of Nowak’s sentence:
“In addition to her sentence, the judge also told Nowak to write a sincere letter of apology to Shipman.”
Link to original article if you are interested:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/lisa-nowak-astronaut-pleads-guilty-colleen-shipman-attack/story?id=9051167
I’m completely amazed…………………
Just for kicks and giggles, here is a video from one year ago of Jose stating that the state is “afraid” of him… hehehehehe…
http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/21406935/off-the-table.htm
LOL!!! Right? I think not! He missed his calling. He should have been a comedian. Although it’s a shame he didn’t represent the above as we may have had more justice in those cases. He has a way of bringing the fight out and throwing his clients under the bus. I can’t even watch and listen to him and take him seriously.
I’m STILL READING BILL SHAEFFER’S ‘NEW’ BLOG!! ( IT HAS OVER 259 COMMENTS!!) ITS ‘GREAT’, NIECEY, JUST LIKE YOURS, ‘MYSTERY’S', M.CLUCKER’S JOHNINFL.( BY THE WAY JOHN, ‘PLEEEEEEEZE’ COME BCK, A.S.A.P.!!- “THANX”!!); ‘HUMBLE’S', ETC. !! I EVEN SAW A COMMENT, BY ‘OUR’ OWN BEES!! ( BY THE WAY BEES, “YOU ROCK”!!
) LATERS!! -TINA-
Hey Tina! I agree, and John has come back.
(P.S., I ALSO SAW COMMENTA by ‘OUR’ :’MYSTERY’, & ‘JILL’, YOU LADIES ALSO…”ROCK”!! ( LIKE BEES !!
) “CHEERS”!! TINA-
I think we completely agree!
As a follow-up to my last post, Jose said a year ago that everyone has forgotten that KC is presumed innocent…
…here is a quote from the State Prosecutors about a month before Jose’s TV appearance:
“Remember, these charges are only allegations and do not constitute a proof of guilt,” prosecutors said. “Ms. Anthony has the right to a trial by jury and is cloaked with the presumption of innocence.”
Link to the original article if you are interested:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,442121,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/crime
Seeing as the prosecution has spoken to the press about this case less than 4 or 5 times over the past year and a half, you would think Jose would be a little more familiar with exactly what they have said… perhaps if they had “leaked” this quote instead…
He’s so busy leaking and blaming it on them, he can’t remember one thing from the next.
LOL!
Oh, “MY BAD”, ‘SORRY’, JILL!! ( I THOUGHT THE KOALA, WAS YOUR PET, IN YOUR BACK YARD??!!) How come they (like Kangaroo’s ‘ONLY’ LIVE IN AUSTRALIA??!!) I MEAN THATS ‘FINE’; BUT I’d like to see them inUT., AS WELL!! ( Oh well, I’ll have to check next summer, & see if their’s any @: “HOGLE ZOO”!!:)
) Thats the UT., ZOO’S name, I’d need to check w/!! I ‘GUESS’ I’ll call/ name the KOALA: ‘CUTEY’, from AUSTRALIA!!
( WHAT, DO YA THINK??!! PLEASE LET ME KNOW, A.S.A.P.!! “THANK-YOU”!! JILL!!
TINA-
Ugh, I WAS/AM STILL readin’ Bill’s column.One of the writters, a “CHA-CHA” said: “The LAB FINDINGS of the syringe, support the defense.” PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS NOT TRUE, NIECEY?! WORRIED FOR ‘ANGEL’ CAYLEE’S TEAM!! TINA-
Tina, Local 6 reported it and so did a few blogs, but in reality, I’m still doing my homework on it, but I’m not sure I buy that.
ALSO, ( THEN I’LL TRY TO GIVE YOUR BLOG A REST NIECEY!! AND, OR, SO SORRY, I’M BEING A: “BLOGGER- PIGGY”!!) I SAW& READ MIKKA’S COMMENTS ALSO!! ( OVR @ BILL’S ‘NEW’ BLOG/ WEB SITE). Also, you “ROCK”!! TOO MIKKA!! (And, anybdy else, that happens to be a ‘REGULAR’ @ YOUR SITE, ‘MYSTERY’S’ SITE, ETC. “CHEERS”!!
TINA-
You’re fine Tina! Always look forward to conversing with you!
Hi Niecey. Nice site you have here. I usually only blog over at Humble, but I always read your posts and the comments.
To Johninflorida. John, I also have tried to log into your site, but it won’t accept my password. I always use only one word, and it gets me into this site as well as Humble’s. Is there anything else I can do. Thanks.
Hey Muesli! So good to see you again and you are always welcome. Thank you.
Muesli, sorry about that. I have and will again go over all my settings. I must have some checked box somewhere in there that needs unchecking.
I was just looking at the photos of the kids on the right side of this page and I must say that is so sad to think a parent can do this to their own child. its bad whenever a stranger does this but for a mother to do it, that makes it all the more a terrible crime. the justice system in this country needs to be revamped. I think for those who take the life of a child should face the dp and nothing else. no life w/o parole and no 25-life. it should only be the dp for these people. and if the justice system did that, then maybe it would put a stop to all of these murders of children. they deserve to live too.
Hey Argentina Rose! I agree with you. I just don’t understand it. Yes we do need an overhaul! No doubt, and might I add that if a life sentence meant life, it might make a difference too. Life shouldn’t mean 25 years and parole, but life, period. It’s a shame when people that steal things get worse punishments many times than people who hurt and destroy other lives. It’s the worst form of stealing.
Spacely@10:45am this woman certainly got a SLAP on the wrist. this is why there is so much crime in this country. and its going to continue as long as our justice system keeps giving sentences like this. commit a crime and you won’t have to do the time.
I agree, yet an innocent person with no money will get slammed. What’s wrong with that picture? Seems these bleeding heart defense attorneys(many, not all) seek out the guilty to help, never the innocent. They don’t seek the best defense for their guilty clients, they seek the best way to frame an innocent person, or blame it on the client’s childhood, or environment. Never said client’s fault.
HELLO BEES KNEES!
Hey Everyone! Sorry, got busy with phones and faxes and stuff this afternoon. I will answer your comments in the morning. Goodnight everyone.
Hiya Tina
Cutey is a lovely name for the Koala…thankyou for choosing it. Kangaroo’s etc are indigenous {native} to Australia…we don’t have Cougars, Buffalo and Bald Eagles as they are native to North America.
Some US zoo’s do have animals from many other Countries…I hope the one in Utah has some Koalas so you may see them.
Hugs ♥♥♥
John my l♥vely…the problem is mine…not yours. I can post here and at sites that don’t require us to log in with a password.
When I tried to log in to your site some months back wordpress chose not to accept my ‘nic’ Jill from Western Australia so I chose “ozzyjill” and it worked until I cleaned my “cookies.”
Now wordpress will not accept Jill from Western Australia as it is tooo long so as ozzyjill wouldn’t work I asked them for a new password. They sent me a very complicated one but the soddin thing doesn’t work…grrrr…gettin’ frustrated.
Hugs ♥♥♥
Niecey my friend….I would luuuuvvvvvv you to email me…thanks
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Hey Jill! I did, but I think I missed you. I was late coming on today. Busy, busy. Have the grandbaby.
The log in problem should be fixed now. It is sad to see what is going on with Bills blog, it has taken on the look of “Topix”.
Hey John! It is sad. I was shocked! I hate that happened.
“THANK-YOU”, JILL!! ( ’bout me naming “CUTEY”!!
) Speakin’ of which, have ya seen:”CUTEY”??!! ( When ya do again, send him or her my love, ‘O.K.’??!! “THANKS- MUCH”!!) Thats ‘TOO’ bad, your STILL HAVIN’ TROUBLE CONNECTIN’ w/ JOHN!! ( I HOPE THINGS:”START IMPROVIN’”, SO TO SPEAK!!) Also, JILL, have you evr thought of havin’ your ‘OWN’ WEB/BLOG??!!( I THINK IT’D BE… ‘AWESOME’!!
) Then, you could keep us ‘UPDATED’ ON AUSTRALIA, & the :”GOINGS-ON”, frm “DOWN UNDER”!!
: MAYBS YOU SHOULD PICK A ‘NEW’ NAME, LIKE: “AUSSIE JILL”, OR:” JILL’S AUSTRALIA”, OR: “GOOD-DAY… WITH JILL”!!
( WHAT’DYA THINK,EH JILL??!! PLEASE LET ME KNOW, A.S.A.P.!!
) Well, gotta go!! “PEACE-OUT”!! TINA-
When checking that my cache was set correctly and refreshing didn’t work I thought I was being clever…turns out I wasn’t…so please everyone leave your cookies alone unless you know what you are doing
Hugs ♥♥♥
Jill, I’m sorry I misunderstood, and I didn’t mean it in a bad way. I realized because of the cookies it was a password problem. These things happen.
HUGS!!!
Good morning everyone!
John, it is sad. BillS’s blog is already out of control. I have never thought I would see all that immaturity on his blog. What really doesn’t make any sense, most have their own blogs that they can post their name calling on, attacks at others, etc.
Hey Humble! I think that is sad. I looked at it and it’s a shame.
Jill, I had a similar problem months ago logging onto wordpress. Not on JIF’s blog, but WP in general. I asked them to send me a new password, and it was about 60 characters long with symbols peppered in there…. It didn’t work. A little later, I went to log into my avatar account (to change my avatar), to learn my “password” didn’t work there either. So I changed my password there, then tried backing out and logging into WordPress again with the new password I had just assigned, and it worked!!!! So they are connected. I would reccommend resetting your avatar acct password, then try logging into WP using that…. I hope it works…..
Hey Ostella! Thanks for sharing that with Jill. I hope it helps.
NIECEY, IF THE SYRINGE, DOES INDEED SUPPORT THE:”DECEPTIVE DEFENSE”( LIKE MY ‘NEW’, ‘TRUETHFUL’, NAME FOR ‘EM??!!
) You DON’T THINK, THEIR’S A CHANCE: “DECEPTIVE DEFENSE” A.K.A…. “CRAZEY & CREW”; COULD WIN, DO YA??!! I ‘TOOOOOOTALLY’ HOPE NOT!! ( ‘Cuz, if so, ‘NO’ JUSTICE, WOULD BE DONE FOR GOD’S ‘ANGEL’ CAYLEE!!
) ‘TOOOOOTALLY’ WORRIED NOW, FOR ‘ANGEL’ CAYLEE’S TEAM!! ( Which is ‘US’, THE PROSECUTION, & MOST ‘IMPORTANTLY’; GOD!! ) TINA-
Nope! Coffin flies were in the trunk, and Casey had possession of the car, and then abandoned it. She also tried to explain away the smell, thus acknowledging it via text messages. Plus the lies, wild goose chases and so many other things.
“THANK- YOU” NIECEY!! ( For putting my mind @ ease, w/ the ‘bove statement/s!!) And, also, the further ‘bove statemnts( when I ASKED YA IF YA THOUGHT I WAS A “BLOG PIGGY’; & YA SAID: “NO, I LIKE CONVERSING W/ YOU”.) I LIKE CONVERSING W/ YOU ALSO, NIECEY!!
) “TOTAL/GOD’S JUSTICE”, for ‘ANGEL’ CAYLEE!! ( ‘ALWAYS’!!
) TINA-
I have been soooo good!
Only left 1 comment on Bill’s blog AFTER all the fighting (and it was fighting)….enjoyed all the comments tho. Some people really do not like each other and just want to state their opinion without having to explain why. While it will all be inappropriate in regard to Bill Shaeffer’s standards, it was humerous to read some of the comebacks people wrote to each other to get back at each other. I should be that skilled!
You’re welcome Tina.
Hey Renee! I’m so proud of you! Good Job! In fact I saw your comment and you were trying to defuse the situation. Very good!
Renee, Good Girl!!!!
I think if I were to say anything over at Bill’s right now, it would be, “OOOOHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM….” But sadly I don’t think many would listen…
To clarify my commentary – while I now understand why the State is seeking the death penalty, I am not, however, convinced that a death sentence would be obtained.
And for the record, philosophically I am opposed to the death penalty.
Very true Ostella.
Hey Mr. Hornsby! Welcome!!! Thank you for the clarification and to be honest you and I have discussed this before, and I’m not convinced that will happen either. (DP)
Personally I’m just fine with Life. That’s me. I believe the DP should be reserved for serial killers, people that are murdering monsters. I do however see like I’ve said, and you have said why they are asking for it.
I will gladly edit and make that clarification in the post if you would like.
I just heard that LE has never asked as much as one question to Mallory before this. Doesn’t that seem odd? She was and is still so close to the family! Am shocked! Maybe it’s not true.
Hello Mr. Hornsby. I would like Casey to know the fear of death as Caylee did, and for that I’m okay with the DP (and I’m a pacifist ~ Canadian). Second best, of course would be LWOP but I think Casey might thrive in a highly structured prison environment. Our own murdering psychopath, Karla Homolka, worked her way through our penal system ~ completed her high school diploma and took correspondence courses in sociology through nearby Queen’s University, learned a second language ~ she appeared to thrive in a highly structured prison environment. I have a feeling Casey might thrive as well, and she doesn’t deserve it.
Bees, I know that they’ve had access to speak with her, but have never heard whether or not they interviewed her.
I know she was house sitting when Caylee’s remains were found and LE basically went in on their search warrant while she was there at first. I think she quickly left, but that’s the only time I know of. There is still so much we don’t know in this case, I’m assuming it’s possible they may have, but can’t tell you they have.
Hi Niecey!
I emailed you!!!!
bozo talk with pipitone! hahahahah
supposed smoking gun in the Casey Anthony case is “a big fizzle,” WKMG-Channel 6 reporter Tony Pipitone said tonight.
Pipitone noted that local and national media highlighted that chloroform was found in a Gatorade bottle and syringe discovered near Caylee Anthony’s remains. Casey Anthony is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter. The state released documents about the chloroform last week.
But earlier this week, Pipitone reported that the amount of chloroform was insignificant. WKMG consulted an independent chemist in reporting its story.
Anthony attorney Jose Baez cited the Pipitone report today. “You can find those chemicals and the byproducts in tap water,” Baez said. “I think, as [with] everything else in this case, it was blown way out of proportion. I’m sure it made a great headline and got everybody excited, but I don’t think it did any more than that.”
Other media have reported the bottle was full of chloroform. Anchor Jacqueline London wanted to know what was in the bottle.
“Basically, water, cleaning fluid and testosterone compound,” Pipitone said. “It seems it might have been someone’s steroid kit that was found, but no connection that we know of to Casey.”
hope everybody is o.k ,see ya friends!
mr.hornsby
i am your biggest fan and you are right on!
Hey Nancy! Got it and answered. Thank you.
Hey Mikka! I saw that article from Hal Boedeker’s blog:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/11/casey-anthony-jose-baez-says-chloroform-reports-were-blown-way-out-of-proportion.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29
I’m not so sure about that. I’m going to try and go back over the docs and look harder at percentages. I’m no scientist, so I can’t tell you if it will do any good, but I’m going to look at it again. I have to see it for myself, if I can fully understand it. I think I can. LOL!
Doing Great. You???
Good morning everyone!
If I remember correctly watching on HLN, one of the prosecutors that was on it stated that she got the DP for one defendant on less circumstantial evidence.
Mr. Hornsby, I was not at all for the DP either, but I feel killing children has gotten out of control in this country. It is time to put an end to it! Children are helpless little people. They can not defend themselves. We need to take a stand and stop this.
Hey Humble!
Niecey, it was said on my blog, and I
so if I drink my tap water will I start growing facial hair because there is testosterone in my tap water!
I wonder if they will drink that tap water? Probably not.
I think it could happen.
Niecey,
Thought you would find this article of interest:
http://maddad0467.newsvine.com/_news/2009/11/04/3460077-an-open-letter-to-the-molester-of-my-son
Hey Spacely! That is gut wrenching. Thank you for sharing that. I am interested. It’s not too often these days we get to hear from someone on behalf of the victim. God Bless That Man, His Son, And His Whole Family.
I’m still thinking the chloroform, no matter how small, is part of the murder. Chloroform evaporates very quickly so that would answer why so little was found in the syringe/bottle months later. Besides, there’s a good chance of a fingerprint being lifted from the plunger of the syringe. I’m assuming it was protected from the elements, right cause it was inside the bottle.
Hey Bees! I completely agree. I do think that there will be a print. There’s more to that in my mind.
Hi Nancy. You’re a real sweetheart and I’m proud to call you my friend. I’ve said to Niecey that although we will likely never meet, I still feel very much like a friend and in some ways even closer at times than the friends I see all the time. Anonymity sometimes makes it easier to open up to, don’t you think? Anyway, thank you honey! No need for concern ~ I am fine and hope you are too. xox
Nancy is a sweetheart. We are very much friends!
Bees, yes, the syringe was sealed inside the bottle, protected from the elements. My guess is the bottle contains a mix of broken down chloroform and steroid. My next guess is it was originally used by Casey for sexual purposes, and later used as a murder weapon. I’m still up in the air regarding whether she swiped the syringe from somebody…..
Hey Ostella! That bottle could have also been used up and filled with water. No matter what I still think it has a place in the case. JMO.
Jose comments about the syringe and chloroform… says it might as well be tap water…
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/11/casey-anthony-attorney-respond.html
Hey Spacely! Maybe what was in it was used or dumped out, or spilled out in the car??? Then it was refilled with tap water? I think these are possibilities. I expected him to say such.
Maybe chloroform and testosterone infested tap water alters one’s sense of smell enough to make a decomposing body smell like invisible rotting pizza.
That’s It!!!
LOL!
Hmmmm.. . that’s interesting Ostella. What are your thoughts about where the chloroform came from in the first place? I lean towards her buying it online because as lazy as Casey was I just can’t see her making a batch, you?
I think there are a few possibilities on that one.
Does anyone else wonder if this long silence indicates deals being made behind closed chambers?
There is no telling.
Bees, she couldve bought it, or she couldve stolen it from Ricardo…. I don’t really see her mixing it either, but ya never know….
I do think there are a few possibilities.
Ostella…
Syringes can be easily picked up…among the new friends of the club scene…this would not be a problem…also Cindy could very well have had them at home…if Cindy were taking B12 by injection…she would not run to the Dr. every month…the Dr. would prescribe it and the syringes….most do this if they take B12.
If Baez and the Channel 6 chemist think it was nothing more than tap water…would the drink it or inject it to prove it so??? Bet Not.
I’m not sure that KC would not mix her own if Cindy had what was needed to do so in the home…KC is lazy true but she also had no money…mixing her own would give her an ample supply and who knows she could have sold it to her friends thus the Gatorade bottle full??? Worth a thought!!!
Hi Niecey and All…..
Hey Mand! I agree that those are the most likely scenarios. Including whether or not that chemist would drink that alleged “water”.
NIECEY, I JUST READ, (OVR IN BILL’S BLOG), that, the PROSECUTION,JUST GOT:Dr. James W. Jawitz!!:) ( Soil expert!!) And, that, MATCHING SOIL WAS FOUND, THAT LINKS “CRAZEY” TO CRIME SCENE!!!!!!!
( Could this be what ‘ANGEL’CAYLEE’S SIDE-THE GOOD SIDE, MIND!! HAS BEEN WAITING FOR??!!) And, could this be (W/OUT A DOUBT!! ‘THEE’ NAIL/ NEEDLE, IN ‘SATAN’S MISTRESS’ A.K.A….”CRAZEY’S FLESH??!! ) HOPE SO!! “TOTAL JUSTICE”/ “GOD’S JUSTICE”!! FOR ‘ANGEL’ CAYLEE!! TINA-
Hey Tina! Excellent! That’s a good sign.
Ostella, that is too funny! I was wonder how Cindy got the rotten pizza smell now i know, she drank tap water!
It does explain things.
Hey Humble! LOL!!!
I’d like to quote my little 3&a half yr. old!!:) ( What BABY MICHAEL #2, SAID ‘CUTELY’, I MIGHT ADD!!) to BEES EARLIER.( When he saw your AVATAR, of the BEE, BEES!!:) He said/ ‘EXCLAIMED’ W/’TOTAL’ HAPPINESS: “BEES”!!
I just thoght you’d like to know that ‘EVERYONE’!! ( ESPECIALLY, BEES!!) “BEES”!! “CHEERS”!! (And, “THANK-YOU”!! For BRINGING A SMILE, TO MY MICHAEL#2!! ) TINA-
Bees always brings smiles!
Hi Bees, I appreciate you saying that. I meant every word I said. I consider you my friend as well. I am so happy to hear you are doing fine. I am keeping you in my prayers! God Bless you! xoxo
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!!!!!
Tina, that’s sweet. Thanks for telling me.
Nancy, I know you meant it and that means a lot to me. And yes, please do keep me in your prayers.
I have a question about fingerprints. If the State has Casey’s prints (I believe they do) would that bombshell have to be released with everything else or can they hold onto that evidence and keep it from either the defense (not likely, huh?) or the public, prior to the trial? Or possibly the defense has been given it but they can keep it out of the media until the trial begins? Anyone know?
The defense would be made aware, but we may not. I don’t think they can hold anything back in the discovery process, at least to the other side, the public, yes they can hold it back from us.
On marinade dave’s site…I thought it was very disrespectful of you niecy 456..
Marinade Dave said, on November 14, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Marinade Dave // November 14, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Thank you, New Puppy. I found it very odd that these people would wrongly assume that I would just sit back and do nothing. With a certain understanding of law, I would make a strong guess that the individuals involved will not be forwarded on to me by LE if and when an investigation takes place. I have decided to add the FBI and FCC in my list of who will get this letter. What else is strange is that these people think I am too stupid to know how to write. This is really an incredibly bad judgment call.
By the way, I will guess that one of the ALLEGED perpetrators could be another blog. That blog is also fomenting trouble. I’ll give you a clue… it isn’t nephewy456. A certain commenter from a city where the Red Sox hail is an instigator, in my opinion, but it may be just at that site.
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Hey Anonymous! Welcome!!!
Thank you for bringing that forward. I am not the least bit worried as he has been using name calling and defamation against the other blogs from the beginning and it is well documented, so I hope he did contact the authorities, as I have so much to share. I intend to take this up with the proper authorities from here on out.
I’ve read that the tape may have been placed on Caylee after death to stop fluids. I’ve missed some of that conversation. Wouldn’t it be difficult to get the tape to adhere at this stage? I realize the hair may be dry, but some of the leakage would’ve gone to one side of the head.
Even if taped is stuck around from dry side to dry side, I’m thinking the leakage would be hard to completely seal off, unless the idea was just to block some.
Hey Ideas! I’ve read some of what you are talking about, and while I know some believe that, I do not. The theory is that she was making it look like a kidnapping after the fact, and I don’t believe that. I think the tape was put on her prior to death. I do think it would be difficult to do so after the fact, especially with her being in the trunk as she would be decomposing at a faster rate due to the heat. (sorry to be so graphic)
I’m sorry I meant I thought the comment was disrespectful to you niecy 456, you did not deserve it & it was also posted on Bill Sheaffer’s blog, have they gone completely mad at MD’s?
I understood what you meant Anonymous. Thank you for your concern. That’s a shame that was put on BS’s blog. I’m really not sure what the problem is, but we are going to ignore it from here on out. Again, thank you so much for your concern. It means a lot.
I think that’s right Ideas. Her face would be wet and decomposing. The tape would just slip off. With probably some of the flesh too. Sorry. Gross.
I agree with you. (It is gross.)
That’s hilarious Anonymous. Thanx for the laugh.
I have been provided some really, really good belly laughs the past couple days! It’s just hilarious!
Yep!
Ok, so at the end of trial, who presents their conclusion first to the jury, the Prosecution or the Defense? (Shows you what I know about the courtroom)
Casey will really have to work on her composure for those last statements.
Prosecution goes first, then the defense, and at any time there can be cross examination from either side, of a witness when that side they are on is done with them. That’s in the testifying. As for closing arguments, same order I believe, but no cross examination.
Bees, I need to get your email. Is it ok to get it thru niecey? Or vice versa?
Absolutely okay ostella.
Beesn, check this out. I wrote this on the last thread:
on November 12, 2009 at 10:47 pm ostella Wowwwww…. Sad. Sad sad sad….. And even now it will probably be “rewritten” as the “hateful bashers” fault….. Sad……
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Its like I’m psychic!
It is HILARIOUS, Bees! I LMAO everytime I think about it!
It’s sheer wisdom Ostella……..Your natural immunity to CEV is making you wiser.
Hello Everyone! I’ve been really busy with my grandbaby and family the past 3 days. Sorry I haven’t answered everyone yet. I promise I will finish tomorrow. I hope everyone has a great rest of the weekend!
BEES, I KNEW YOU’D LIKE/’LOVE’ the COMMENT/ ‘COMPLIMENT’, frm my BABY MICHAEL#2!!:) ( And – “YOUR VERY WELCOME, MY ‘SOUL’ SISTER!!”
) Now, I’M ‘SORRY’, but, I FORGOT, ( Wht happened to you, the reason why NANCY SAID, IN A ‘RECENT’ POST:”I’LL KEEP YOU IN MY PRAYERS, BEES”??!!) I TOO, WILL KEEP YOU IN MY ‘PRAYERS’; ( I JUST DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU??!! ‘PLEEEEEZE’ LET ME KNOW- A.S.A.P.??!!) “LOTS OF ‘PRAYERS’,'LOVE’, ‘XOXO’, ” FOR YOU, ‘ANGELS’: CAYLEE, MY FIRST MICHAEL, ETC.; YOUR ‘SOUL- SISTER’/FRIEND- TINA-
P.S., MIKKA- MY BABY MICHAEL LOVES, LOVES, ‘LOVES’, YOUR AVATAR( of your ‘CUTE’ CAT, AS WELL!!
) Whats his/her name??!! YOUR ‘SOUL-SISTER’/FRIEND, ALSO
) TINA-
Tina you are sweet to ask. I had lung cancer five years ago and I thought I had it beat because I just passed the five-year mark but I recently had an xray of my chest for another reason and they are concerned because they can see another small shadow on my lungs.
I am not overly worried ~ it could even be just scar tissue but the technician says it looks a little different so it must be checked of course. I feel fine and I think if it is cancer again I will deal with it as I did the last time.
You great women have been so sweet and I am honoured by your kindness. I’m fortunate enough to have very good friends around me and even here in blogdom with you, Niecey, Ostella, Jill, Nancy, Humble, Ideas ~ all of these smart, warm-hearted women mean a lot to me.
Scar tissue is all it is. I’m sure. You have no idea how much you mean to all of us Bees. We love ya!
Niecey, I’m glad you’ve been enjoying your little grandson. You really haven’t missed anything important. This case has become so quiet. Now I’m sure I read on some other site that there’s about to be another doc. dump but I wasn’t able to get a date on that so it could have been an old comment. Has anyone heard that?
The defense got the WFTV find and the investigation thereof handed over to them last week. I’m not sure when and if it will be released to the public.
Bees, I didn’t hear about this recent health scare!
I’m sorry! I’m going to keep you in my thoughts and prayers as well!
I read at Kreuzers that the state just gave the defense another small drop (less than 100 pgs), but no word on we’ll see it.
Niecey hasn’t missed much…although I’m still LMAO about the latest….was it just me, or did that letter strongly resemble Dom Casey’s Official “Do Not Allow Entry” $hitlist? I thought I recognized a certain trademark paranoid, delusional tone….”Fomenting trouble”…..so very reminiscent of Dom’s catchphrase, “disseminates hatred towards the Anthonys.” I call it “people speaking their minds.”
Can you imagine caring enough about what people think of you, that you stockpile files of info, collecting every negative dissenting comment, and tracking perceived insults all over the web? Can you imagine carrying all that negative emotional weight around, and curling up with it at night like some sort of security blanket? And then handing it over to the FBI, and expect them to sort out you interpersonal blog squabbles? With a straight face?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Hard to believe he’s still single, huh?!
Oh well. Life goes on…………
Wow! I knew there was a familiar tone! LOL!
Yes. It’s a wonder he hasn’t been snapped up by some eager woman! I just can’t understand. HA HA HA!!!! I agree. The letter to the feds is the icing on the cake. I honestly have not laughed so hard at a blog in my life. Priceless! We do enjoy Freedom of Laughter, do we not? It should be right up there with Freedom of Speech. Hope they don’t write a letter about me. I think at this point they must be going for the laughs ~ they surely cannot be serious.
Thank you for your prayers. I’m very optomistic ~ well, except for the couple times I’ve woken in the night and was all alone with my thoughts. I felt a bit of fear creep in then. But one of the reasons I’m still around today is because the cancer was detected really early the last time. With lung cancer you usually don’t know about it until you’re coughing up blood and by then it’s usually too late. Now again, if this is cancer it has been caught early so my chances of survival are a lot higher. And I’m young. Well, not THAT young but awful young to have lung cancer.
Freedom of laughter should be a constitutional right! Maybe embedded with free speech? I think so, anyway, it is rather laughable.
Bees, You are constantly in my prayers. You are right on, but I’m leaning toward the scar tissue. We are all here for you!
Ostella, good catch at noticing the similarity between the letters. I’m really begining to think that there are more trolls running around trying to pretend that they aren’t.
I’ve noticed this for quite some time.
Bees, its great that you’re so optimistic!
Positive thinking is essential! And early detection is indeed a blessing. My grandmother passed away a few years ago, due to lung cancer. She chainsmoked 3-4 packs of cigs a day for about 50 years, though. This is (partly) why my mom and I are exercise/health freaks. I will think positive thoughts for you!!!!!
you don’t smoke, right? Please don’t say yes, or I’ll fly to Canada and beat you!
I do agree about Bee’s optimism. Sorry about your grandmother.
I am waxing philosophical now. I think the reason for people getting angry is because of the great amount of hypocrisy we’ve see. As you’ve pointed out before, they practically foam at the mouth if anybody makes a negative remark about the lying Anthony family! They will not tolerate bashing or name calling, they say. And immediately upon saying that, they start name calling ~ “snakes,” “pigs,” “fecal matter,” etc. etc. HA HA HA!!!We’ve read all the names they’ve thrown at us. But somehow in their mind the rules do not apply to them. For some reason it is worse to call Lee “tube sox boy” than it is to call a blogger “filth,” “tarts,” and “vermin” etc. There’s really only one word for that. *HYPOCRISY.* You can’t call people names while you are telling them it is wrong to call people names! Seems pretty clear to me, but who knows? Maybe that’s a tough concept for some.
HYPOCRISY IT IS! It’s also called a sense of entitlement. They are entitled to be put on a pedestal, and everyone else is beneath them. Everyone owes them something, and they are always right. NOT!!!
Now, unless I read another comment about me on any other blogs, I am done with it. It has become tedious to me. There are many, many finer things in life to occupy my time with. Or, until we are given another scenario to laugh deeply at, I just can’t help it. Too funny!!! LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE.
Laughter is the best medicine, and I’m pretty much done with it as well.
No, I don’t smoke. I used to but I had quit about six years before I got cancer. I’m sorry about your Grandma. Good for you keeping yourself healthy. Good health is really such a gift and a lot of times we take it for granted until it’s gone!
So true!
Bees, here’s a great quote:
“Dignity does not consist in possessing honors, but in deserving them.”
-Aristotle
Excellent Wisdom!
Me too Bees. Its tedious until it gets hilarious again…. One more quote (regarding exercise), and then I’m done:
“Being entirely honest with onself is the best exercise.”
-Sigmund Freud
So true and is a cure and immunity for CEV.
Niecey, I want to take a minute and apologize to you for bringing the “blog we should not speak of” over here to your nice clean site. I’m really not happy with myself for doing that and I promise you this will be my last word on the matter. I just can’t seem to keep my mouth shut when I read of any of that weird bunch saying anything negative about you or the other good bloggers. I do not go to that site but unfortunately ran into the garbage over on Bill’s new blog. From now on I’ll just email my nefarious musings directly to you (or Ostella, if she’ll let me) so as not to mess up this nice blog of yours. I know you are too gracious a hostess to tell me but I don’t need to be told, I’m a grown woman.
Bees, No apologies necessary. I do think we should let it go, but some did over step their bounds. The good news is I’ve updated the blacklist, as to not let such come in and start it over here. We will carry on and just ignore it from now on. I think we were all taken back by it, and we vented, it’s over and time to move on. I do appreciate your support, and your defense of me. We’re good girlfriend!
That’s a good one. Here’s one I like too:
“Tell the truth. Tell the truth. Tell the truth.”
~ Elizabeth Gilbert (author of “Eat, Pray, Love”)
Excellent!!! So True!
Does anyone know what the FBI can do? I mean I admit to having quite a few run ins with them at Bill’s, it just sort of snowballed but they are totally obnoxious going in there throwing their weight around telling bloggers ‘not to bash the A’s on Bill’s friggin blog. It made me livid. So now will I see the FBI at my doorsteps because I said they are overstepping boundaries using ownership of blogs to delve into IP’s threats of exposing where you live of outing you when they disagree with what you say, usually because you ‘bashed the Anthony’.
God I despise that little worm. Will this complaint he made online be taken seriously, should I get an attorney..lol..?? I better shut-up before I get in more trouble…spies lurking.
They are not going to do a thing. They don’t have time to waste on such petty complaints, by folks making false accusations, who were obviously stirring the pot, and have obviously been slandering others since they started. It’s well documented. I don’t despise him, but I pity him that he is so unhappy. Don’t worry about it.
Me too sorry last I’ll bring it up, don’t know Neicy456 but she seems sweet & I just was curious if she’s upset cause to me those remarks could be slanderous of her. Sorry last I’ll speak of it.
Thank you for your caring and concern. Yes I was very angry at first, and especially because it all went down while I was out spending time with my family. No one here did anything wrong, so I welcome an investigation, but I doubt there will be one.
We will move on from here.
Bee–I’m sorry you are having a health scare–I didn’t know about your previous cancer. I’m sure you are right and it is nothing, but I have added you to my prayer list if that’s okay. Please let us know how the tests turn out.
Thank you Mystery. You are so kind. I completely believe in the power of prayer.
Me, too, Bees. I’ve seen it first hand. It works!
Yes it does! Prayer does work.
BEES, IT IS I, THAT IS HONORED, THAT YOUR ONE OF MY:1/ ‘SOUL-SISTERS’/ FRIENDS 2/ A ‘GREAT’ HUMANE HUMAN BEING!!
) . IJUST SAW the ‘NEW’ MOVIE:”2012!!” ‘WOW’!! ( IT ‘REALLY’ MAKES ONE SEE ‘EVERYTHING’!! Like, ‘WE’RE’ ALL LIVING ON ‘BORROWED’; TIME!!
) Yes, MAYBS WE DON’T KNOW ‘THEE’ EXACT TIME OF :”THEE END”, OR “THE 2ND COMING”; BUT, I BELIEVE IT IS GOING TO BE:DEC.21-22ND, 2012!!
.(I JUST THINK, WE DON’T KNOW THEE, EXACT TIME OF DAY; OR NIGHT!!:(
). “GOD-BLESS” YOU BEES, & NIECEY, & ALL OF ‘US’!! BECAUSE, W/ GOD, WE’RE ‘ALL’ RELATED!!
. “PEACE-OUT”!! TINA-
Hi Tina. Thank you. I see you’re familiar with the Mayan calendar which mysteriously ends on Dec. 21, 2012. Very interesting. Did you see the movie at a theatre or is it out on dvd yet do you know?
I saw it @ a theatre. Yes, I am ‘VERY’, ‘VERY’, familar w/ the ANCIENT MAYAN CALANDER!!:) ) They, like the Ancient Egyptians, were MASTERS IN : ASTROLODGY, & ‘SECRET KNOWLEDGE’; OF THINGS TO COME!! ( Coming catastrophies…A.K.A., “THE SECOND COMING”, ETC.) I BELIEVE, (‘fore EVE bit into the ‘FATED’ APPLE, MIND!!
) WE ALL HAD A MUCH CLOSER CONNECTION; W/ GOD!! Then she bites into the ‘FATED’ APPLE, & WELL, ( YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS THEN!!
). IWAS THINKING earlier, if this “CRAZEY” TRIAL gets ‘LAID-BACK’, ‘INDEFINATLY’, GUESS WHO’S GONNA BE HER:1/JUDGE, 2/ JURY, 3/ EXECUTIONER??!! YOU GUESSED CORRECETLY!!
GOD & HIS ANGELS!! And w/ GOD & HIS ‘ANGELS’, “CRAZEY” WILL DEFINATLY GET A FAIR TRIAL!! TINA-
AND SHE & HER ‘CREW’ WON’T BE ABLE TO LIE!! ( Since GOD:1/ SEES, 2/ HEARS, 3/ KNOWS ALL THINGS!!
) Lets see her ‘TRY’ & LIE TO GOD& HIS ANGELS!! ( NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!
) Doesn’t that just make ya HAPPY??!! ( It does me!!) LATERS!! TINA-
P.P.S., “YOUR VERY WELCOME,” BEES!! TINA-
Tina there are certainly many many wonderful mysteries we’ve yet to witness. You are right that God sees all. There’s no hiding from Him that’s for sure and it is comforting, yes!
Yes Bees, He knows our hearts and He knows the Truth. He will never leave us nor forsake us.
Bees…stay strong my l♥vely, think positive thoughts and remember that ALL your friends are praying for you.
Huge (((((HUGS))))) ♥♥♥
BEES, I SECOND( What Jill just said!!
) By the way, “HI”!! Jill!! ( Did ya ever get your bk, etc.!? HOPE SO!!) LATERS, ‘SOUL-SISTERS’/FRIENDS!!
TINA-
Hey Everyone! I answered the comments within the comments. Hope everyone is well!!!
Bees, Just look how loved you are. I’m with the others in praying for you. We love Ya!!!